ealgylden: (martindanny (carolinecrane))
Joan ([personal profile] ealgylden) wrote2003-10-09 11:07 pm

Thursday night is "Cutting Off Corpses' Fingers Night" here in scenic Vegas...

If what you watch reflects who you are, does that mean I like my characterization random and my endings bleak? Um. Nah.

(Running commentary again, sorry. I'm too lazy these days for essays.)

Homebodies

Wait, Albert cut off Mummy Lady's fingers? He can do that? Ewww.

So Ballistics Rich had lines this week. Hm. He's kind of... I dunno. He'll need more lines, preferably not gun-nut ones, before I vote yay or nay (though he is cute, which is a plus. Catherine seems to think so, anyway). But he's definitely not Bobby. I miss Bobby.

Poor Greg, training with Warrick, who is not, as we know, the most patient CSI around. That can't be very comfortable, considering that Greg's been the wizard of his lab for a while, and now he's back learning and screwing up and fishing fingers out of jars. And the fingers! I still say it's weird that they can just cut someone's fingers off. Gah! I loved Greg blaming the messy prints on Warrick, not that Gil bought it. Very cute.

And while Greg plays with pickled fingers, Nick is off flirting with a softball-playing cop. The boy just can't help himself. He was smart and competent in this episode though, which is always nice to see (and which shouldn't be a surprise by this stage in the game, oh PTB. So knock it off with the rookie mistakes. Why yes, I am still annoyed about "Assume Nothing"). He also had a nice empathetic moment, with his observation that, "Bad guys leave. Fear just... stays behind." I know that big, swoony character moments are relatively few on this show, and I like it like that. But some sort of follow-up to "Stalker," anything, a line, a moment... I wanted that. I still want that. But since it's apparently never going to happen, I'm interpreting Nick's sensitivity to the emotional effects of having one's home invaded through a "Stalker"-marked lens. Of any of the team, he'd know that fear best.

Shallow hair moment (there's always at least one, right?)- Jacqui's hair looks better down than pulled back into the bun she had in "Assume Nothing," but I miss the curls. Her current hairdo makes her look like Abbey Bartlett.

Wow, Gil can be cold. I know he was just being his normal analytical self when he offered his theory on why Susanna might have been bitten from behind, but Sara didn't look prepared to hear it so... bluntly.

Argh, two clichés that I thoroughly despise in this episode. 1- "We don't believe in guns." Like guns are unicorns or something. Sweetheart, you believe in guns. You might not believe in owning them or using them, but you believe in their existence. Gah, I hate that phrasing. 2- That if Character A doesn't have a wife and kids, like Character B does, Character A can never understand Character B's pain. There are all sorts of faulty assumptions that go into that statement (that A has never had a wife or kids even if he does not have them currently, that A has never had a relationship that equals such bonds in strength or emotion, etc.), and it annoys me. I know Susanna's father (I don't remember their last name) was in terrible pain, but that line never works for me. Which is bad, considering how often it turns up. Incredibly overdone cliché.

So Catherine and Warrick hang out in the locker room again before heading off together. Again. Is the show actually going to go someplace with their chemistry? They do seem to be pairing up often these days. Sara seems increasingly uncomfortable around Gil (and good riddance to that), so if Catherine/Warrick is to be our substitute canon 'ship, well, I'm not unhappy. Not giddy beyond believing, like if we got blatant Nick/Greg (more so, that is. It's pretty blatant by my standards, but I mean for the general public), but not unhappy.

I hope, I so hope, that this crime is the beginning of an arc. Poor Susanna, poor Sara (her tears at the end got me but good), poor everyone. I want them to get this guy. Poor, poor girl. Overall, I thought it was a much stronger episode than the ballyhooed two-part opener, albeit a terribly sad one.

And the preview for next week, blech. Another episode about "a CSI's screw-up puts a case in jeopardy"? How many does this make? These people are supposed to be good at their jobs, right?


Confidence

Danny and Martin have no concept of personal space in their interactions. It's like they're magnetized. As soon as Jack and Danny show up at the scene, ziiiiiip, Martin's glued to Danny's side. Good thing Jack went off to interview Murderous Fiancé (and wow, was Jack in a mood tonight!), because there was no room for him in Martin/Danny-land. And while I was disappointed (as I'm sure they were) that they were split up for the Palm Beach trip, all was not lost, since Danny was paired with Viv. Go, Team Attitude! I do like Viv as Danny's confidante, though I'm not convinced by his identifying with Whitney. Don't buy it a'tall. Also not thrilled by his name-changing thing, though having read that article about how "Danny Taylor" wasn't Latino enough, I wasn't overly surprised.

Sam/Martin, I'm beginning to buy as friends. I'm still seeing absolutely no romantic or sexual spark there, but a comfortable platonic vibe, yeah, it's starting to come through. A little. I particularly liked the scene where Martin was teasing Sam about her driving. I miss Mulder and Scully.

Stop with the Sam/Jack, PTB. Just stop. It isn't good for the characters.

Oh, and I know Danny's a native of the city and they have a very warped view of the rest of the state (not that I'm bitter about that), but Saratoga? Is not a small town. And it has a not inconsiderable number of strangers who pass through. So maybe someone will remember seeing Murderous Fiancé make that phone call, but it probably won't be because outsiders are so rare in their close-knit community or anything.

And, of course, the fashion. Doesn't Danny own a hairbrush? At least Martin's is still growing out, though it has now hit a fairly unflattering length. But hey, a little more every week! Soon it will be spiky again! (I'm obsessed- instead of Caroline's Subtext Reports, I have Joan's Hair Report). Martin had one okay suit (the black with the red tie) and one "did you lose a bet?" suit. Keep that boy away from anything louder than pinstripes, especially if the suit is brown. And that tie... And speaking of ties, what was that blue, blobby, flowery monstrosity Danny had around his neck? Martin's continuing fashion disasters I'm taking as a character choice, much like RGB writers have interpreted RGB Egon's pink shirts- the oddity of the choice reflects a desire to break away from a restrictive upbringing and the hazards inherent therein, ie. if you aren't used to wearing colorful things, it might take a while to get it right. That or color blindness (shades of Mulder again). But Danny's generally a bit more tasteful in his choices, so freak-outs like that blue tie or the occasional gangster suit show up. Badly. Or hey, maybe it's Martin's tie. Yeah, that's it, he's wearing Martin's clothes. Heh.

[identity profile] alethialia.livejournal.com 2003-10-10 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Or hey, maybe it's Martin's tie. Yeah, that's it, he's wearing Martin's clothes. Heh.

That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. They had a late morning (heh) and Danny just grabbed whatever. After all, Martin had just come back from a trip of enforced celibacy. Yeah, it was like two days. But still. Martin missed Danny and they had lots and lots of 'missd you, glad you're back' sex, leading to their tragic sartorial decisions.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com 2003-10-10 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well hey, that theory works great for me. It might also explain his messy hair, if he and Martin were so busy "catching up" (since two days of going without is, like, 20 years in "sexy young guy" years) that he just rolled out of bed and out the door without grabbing a hairbrush first. Lots of sex can cause a variety of fashion mishaps, I've found.

[identity profile] puffgirl-two.livejournal.com 2003-10-10 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Also not thrilled by his name-changing thing, though having read that article about how "Danny Taylor" wasn't Latino enough, I wasn't overly surprised.

It seemed like a bit of a random copout to me. And probably pointless in the end. I'm not sure why they think that Danny being a Latino who decided to volutarily reject his Latino heritage would be accepted any better.

Saratoga? Is not a small town.

I was thinking that, and I've never been to Saratoga. I was also wondering if it was a good idea to give the guy with lots of money fair warning and time to escape to a country with no extradition treaty.

The hair is pretty bad.

[identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com 2003-10-11 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
It seemed like a bit of a random copout to me. And probably pointless in the end. I'm not sure why they think that Danny being a Latino who decided to volutarily reject his Latino heritage would be accepted any better.

It was very random, an afterthought that didn't quite fit. And I agree, a Danny who deliberately changed his presumably more obviously Latino name doesn't seem like a step up from a Danny who just happened to end up with a "generic" name. But then I never got the fuss over his name in the first place. I mean, I was never confused about his ethnicity, whatever he was called.

The Saratoga thing was silly and annoying. And the most annoying thing was that it was not even slightly surprising or OOC, considering that Danny's a native New Yorker. They only notice the rest of us living in the state when they want money. Hmph.

I was also wondering if it was a good idea to give the guy with lots of money fair warning and time to escape to a country with no extradition treaty.

Heh, no kidding. I'm sure Poor Little Rich Boy will be terribly worried as he lounges around in the Netherlands, Switzerland or Luxembourg. Slight flaw in Danny's logic there.

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2003-10-11 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Loved the Danny/Martin bits! Another pair who seem to be attached by velcro :)

The name change thing bugged me too. I don't see how this is better.

A big "word" to your comments on the Sam/Martin thing. They work quite well as friends, but anything more would be stupid. Not to mention a scandal. It's like bad fanfic, where everyone in the office/ship/team is involved with each other.

Martin's continuing fashion disasters I'm taking as a character choice, much like RGB writers have interpreted RGB Egon's pink shirts- the oddity of the choice reflects a desire to break away from a restrictive upbringing and the hazards inherent therein, ie. if you aren't used to wearing colorful things, it might take a while to get it right.

Ooh! I very much like this theory. I always enjoyed reading explanations of Egon's pink shirts, especially Robyn's, in her college series. It makes sense that a person might go from one extreme to another when finally presented with the option.

[identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com 2003-10-12 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Loved the Danny/Martin bits! Another pair who seem to be attached by velcro

They do! They just can't help themselves. No personal space at all, and no concept of "hands off." Aw.

It's like bad fanfic, where everyone in the office/ship/team is involved with each other.

Exactly. I know it's tough to meet someone outside the office, but come on. How is that good for team dynamics, and heck, how do they get any work done? Good thing Danny seems to be off-limits to Sam, or I think that'd be it for me.

It makes sense that a person might go from one extreme to another when finally presented with the option.

Right, exactly! Robyn's college series is what I was thinking of, actually (I've seen that idea in other stories too, but I really like her work, so she's first in the brain). Once those repressed types start to break out, they end up in all sorts of odd places. *g* That interpretation makes me happier than "Martin can't dress himself" or "Eric Close ticked off the costumer," anyway.

Now I really want to dig out my hard copies of Robyn and Mara's stories. And unlike nearly every book I want to read, I even know where they are. Yay!

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2003-10-14 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
They do! They just can't help themselves. No personal space at all, and no concept of "hands off." Aw.

Not that this is a bad thing *g*

Exactly. I know it's tough to meet someone outside the office, but come on. How is that good for team dynamics, and heck, how do they get any work done? Good thing Danny seems to be off-limits to Sam, or I think that'd be it for me.

I should think it would suck for team dynamics, considering how jealous people are by nature. Just the thought of Danny/Sam strikes fear and loathing into my heart...*shudder*

That interpretation makes me happier than "Martin can't dress himself" or "Eric Close ticked off the costumer," anyway.

Heh. That would be hysterical. Maybe he made the costume person mad, and he's paying penance for it. Or perhaps Close himself has bad taste, and keeps giving crap input on what his warddrobe should include.

Now I really want to dig out my hard copies of Robyn and Mara's stories. And unlike nearly every book I want to read, I even know where they are. Yay!

I just love their stuff! For a cartoon, RGB generated some of the best fanfic.

You actually know where something is? ::faints::

[identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com 2003-10-17 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
I just love their stuff! For a cartoon, RGB generated some of the best fanfic.

It really did, which surprised me until I went back and rewatched some of the episodes. And you know, they were surprisingly... not dark, exactly, but deeper than most of the other cartoons of the day. Still for kids, of course, but there are undercurrents that I certainly did not catch the first time around (like all their various family issues [esp. Egon's and Peter's], their relationship to mortality, politics, religion, etc). Neat stuff. And funny! It holds up well. I miss my RGB icon. :(

You actually know where something is? ::faints::

Well I bet you won't be surprised when I say that the fact that I know is purely accidental, and because I was looking for something else entirely (some Angel fic. I didn't find it. Yet!). Everything's here someplace. That's kind of the problem, actually. It's all... here.

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2003-10-18 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Another series I wish was out on DVD, as I only have one episode on tape (a pro tape, but still, just the one) and it's been years since I saw the others. But you're right, definitely deeper and more adult than most cartoons out there.

Well I bet you won't be surprised when I say that the fact that I know is purely accidental, and because I was looking for something else entirely (some Angel fic. I didn't find it. Yet!). Everything's here someplace. That's kind of the problem, actually. It's all... here.

Heh. Nope, not surprised at all. Perhaps you need a file cabinet for fannish things; that way, all the stuff can be "there" but organized and findable :)

[identity profile] kathlaw.livejournal.com 2003-10-11 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Argh, two clichés that I thoroughly despise in this episode. 1- "We don't believe in guns." Like guns are unicorns or something. Sweetheart, you believe in guns. You might not believe in owning them or using them, but you believe in their existence. Gah, I hate that phrasing.

YES!!

And, of course, the fashion. Doesn't Danny own a hairbrush? At least Martin's is still growing out, though it has now hit a fairly unflattering length.

And coming from the Hollywood side of the force, I want to be nasty and tell them to fire the hairdresser and get someone who has at least some knowledge of FBI conservative dressing. Danny's hair was simply wrong for a Feebee, and while Martin's is growing out, it still makes me twitch.

And yes, on the Jack/Sam scene. It made me squick. The behavior is just WRONG for a relationship between former lovers, one married. I mean if he's doing the whole "conflicted" thing, it works, but it's not right for where they seemed to be heading. *sigh*

[identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com 2003-10-12 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
And coming from the Hollywood side of the force, I want to be nasty and tell them to fire the hairdresser and get someone who has at least some knowledge of FBI conservative dressing. Danny's hair was simply wrong for a Feebee, and while Martin's is growing out, it still makes me twitch.

Yes, yes, yes. I totally agree. If Danny were going undercover in a club, maybe the hair would be okay, but otherwise it doesn't work. And Martin's getting to the goofy stage now. These days Viv is the only one who looks like a fed, perhaps because we're not supposed to find her attractive. Stupid Hollywood.

And yes, on the Jack/Sam scene. It made me squick. The behavior is just WRONG for a relationship between former lovers, one married. I mean if he's doing the whole "conflicted" thing, it works, but it's not right for where they seemed to be heading. *sigh*

It annoys me terribly that TPTB feel the need to treat their characters like this. What on earth was that whole scene where Sam questioned Jack for sending her to Palm Springs about? If she can't differentiate between being sent on a case and being sent away from him, there's a problem. Those two should be split up- their entanglement is starting to encroach on their job (with Sam especially, but she's a mountain of issues at the moment, poor kid), and unless they knock it off right now (grr!), someone could get hurt. And the fact that at this point I want that someone to be Jack and/or Sam (but more Jack, I think) is probably not a good thing.

[identity profile] kathlaw.livejournal.com 2003-10-12 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
What on earth was that whole scene where Sam questioned Jack for sending her to Palm Springs about?

Yeah. It was just wrong for BOTH characters to react like that, given how we've seen them to date. Someone needs to give him some kind of management refresher course. Under the circumstances, I'd cut Sam more slack than him -- he should know better. She at least has post trauma and post shooting problems to deal with and is emotionally a bit of a mess.