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So. Pirates of the Caribbean. First (local) showing on opening day. I was there. And what did I think?



Okay, turn off the part of your brain that wrote papers on Fassbinder, Kurosawa and Angelopoulos back in Film Studies. You love the oeuvre of Jean-Luc Godard? That's wonderful. Don't think about that right now. Your life would be complete if you could only meet Atom Egoyan, Wong Kar-Wai or Jim Jarmusch? I don't doubt it for a minute, but that won't help you enjoy Pirates of the Caribbean any more. It may even get in your way. Instead, remember back to when you wanted to be Grace O'Malley the Pirate Queen, or Robin Hood, or Zorro, or hell, even Xena. Relax. Forget how smart and analytical you are (I'll remember, honest), and just wallow for a while in big, silly, romantic gestures. Remember wanting nothing so much as a treasure map, with monsters slithering around the edges and a big black X marking the spot under Skull Rock. Ready? Okay then. Onward!

A couple of previews first- I finally got to see a preview for Hidalgo, and it looks much better than I had expected (not that my expectations had been low, exactly, but still, it was reassuring). Lots of fierce Arab men on gorgeous horses, lots of sweeping desert shots, lots of Viggo looking intense or somewhat goofy, lots of snazzy action scenes, very handsome title horse... overall, it looks like a good bet. Won't open until fall though. Also looking better than expected is The Last Samurai. It was a very early, dialogue-free teaser (the film doesn't open until December), but it had some gorgeous battle shots and a good bit of that "Ooh! Pretty! Epic! Old Japan!" feel that one would hope for. Pity about it starring Tom Cruise though. When did he decide he wanted to be Richard Chamberlain?

On to the pirates. Well, the Orli Factor was hard at work in the audience, which had an average age of about fourteen and was overwhelmingly female. I felt downright old.

Nicely creepy prologue gets things moving before we jump ahead to Port Royal, Jamaica. Of course. Was there ever a pirate movie that avoided Port Royal? Here we spend some time with the colonial governor (Jonathan Pryce, looking rather stouter than usual) and his daughter, our heroine, Elizabeth Swann (Kiera Knightley). She looks like the standard pampered princess and I was prepared to tune her out, but that was a mistake. Don't discount the girl for all that her role is too often a thankless one in these movies. She's much better than the average. We also meet the stalwart, snobbish military fellow Daddy would like Elizabeth to marry, and Will Turner, the blacksmith's apprentice, the fellow whom Elizabeth favors. That's Orli, natch. He has to be the skinniest little blacksmith in the history of fiction, but he looks very pretty in the period clothes. There are some funny bits, some touching bits, blah blah blah... then Jack Sparrow appears. S'cuse me, Captain Jack Sparrow.

Johnny Depp is the reason to see this movie, as far as I'm concerned. His performance is so funny, so clever and so... just... weird, that it kidnaps the entire movie and holds it in its thrall. I loved it, but I can imagine that if his performance doesn't work for you, watching this movie will be endless and possibly painful. He has the oddest body language, including a walk that's part roll, part flounce, and part caper, and hands that sort of drift around on their own from time to time. He does tend to mumble a bit or strangely emphasize certain words or syllables, so I did lose a few lines (nothing a rewatch won't fix). And his costume... well, you've seen it in pictures. It's even more so in motion, trust me. Overall it's a fascinating and very funny performance, and Johnny's obviously having a blast. His tangible enthusiasm pulled me right along with him.

You know, it's almost a pity that Johnny Depp was born in the modern film era, because he would have been a great silent movie actor. It's just fascinating to watch him move in this film.

So Jack gets a great entrance (funny, strange and physically deft), which shortly leads to some derring-do and swinging around... well, not from the riggings, because he's still on land, but that same general idea. Jack's first action scene is a throwback to Fairbanks in The Black Pirate or maybe Lancaster in The Crimson Pirate (or Flynn as Robin Hood, if you want to stay on land), and it really works. They can do amazing things with computers nowadays, but I'll always be a sucker for some poor stuntman actually flying through the air. Nicely done, guys.

Plots, action, stuff happens- Jack and Will meet and there's a bit of swordplay, and here's my big (eternal) complaint. The fighting is good, not Golden Age quality or even as nice as the swordplay in The Mask of Zorro, but good. But it's filmed and edited so messily that you can't really see that. God forbid we should just give the characters some swords and let them battle it out- noooo, we have to have cuts and jumps and spinning cameras. Drives me up the wall. I can't enjoy a good swordfight (or even an indifferent one) if it's edited like a Baz Luhrmann musical number. Knock it off, Hollywood.

Will/Orlando is very pretty, very brave, very noble, very dumb (okay, not very. But kinda dumb), but not as fun to watch as Elizabeth or Jack. Elizabeth is like the even more hoydenish niece of Olivia de Havilland's Arabella from Captain Blood- if she needs to, she can be the proper genteel lady, but she really blossoms under adversity, like when she single-handedly faces down a shipful of accursed pirates with only her wits and a trinket (a plot point trinket, but still). She's tossed from peril to peril with barely time to breathe, and she spends a good part of the film in one layer of her underthings or another, but she's smart and brave enough to come through it all intact, and even stronger for it. I liked this girl. She got scared but she never simpered, and that's what I want from my swashbuckling heroines. Olivia's legacy wasn't besmirched. Brava, Kiera!

The cursed pirates' first arrival at Port Royal reminded me of a combination of Captain Blood and that old Garfield Halloween special. Remember the one where he and Odie were trapped on an island with a creepy old dude who'd once been a pirate ship's cabin boy, and the treasure was buried there and the ghost pirates came back to get it, and then they chased Garfield and Odie for a while, and it was actually a little creepy if you were a kid? I loved that episode. Still have it on tape, somewhere.

Where was I?

Geoffrey Rush. Captain Barbossa. The man was born to be a pirate. He has a nice rollicking gait, a cruel sneer, a dubious twinkle in his eye, a heart as black as the deepest depths, and all of the other necessary elements for a good (well, evil) pirate captain. He and Johnny have a duel at the end of the film where they dance around, bounding over piles of treasure and ducking in and out of moonbeams, that is so much better than anything I expected from this movie. Rush might attract Oscars for "uplifting"-type films, but in this film he's pure swashbuckling villainy, a Basil Rathbone long gone to seed. He and Johnny grab this film by the neck and haul it over the slow parts (and there are a few of those, although generally it sweeps along quickly enough that you don't notice how long it is). And speaking of that last duel- there’s a great moment during it where Johnny does a trick with a coin, and the sound guys really make it work. It was just... neat!

Um, what else. There's an... interesting glimpse of the pirate island of Tortuga (of course they go to Tortuga. See earlier comment about Port Royal). The score is a good one, big, sweeping and not at all subtle (no reason why it should be). It has a few elements that are reminiscent of Hans Zimmer (unsurprising, since composer Klaus Badelt is his protege) and a few others that reminded me of Howard Shore's work for LotR. It's not anything truly new or unique, but it's wholly satisfying.

In fact, that fits the movie as a whole. It never met a pirate cliche it couldn't steal, it never goes for one sidelong reference to past greats of the genre when it could go for three, and its cast devours entire fleets of scenery. But the result is an affectionate, rollicking, wholehearted romp of a throwback of a film, the likes of which hasn't been done since... well, since the last cape-swirling, sword-flashing, eye-twinkling, swashbuckling resurrection, The Mask of Zorro. All the desirable bits are there. The handsome, brave hero. The beautiful, spirited heroine. The hissable pirate captain. The noble, stiff English military and the dastardly pirate crew. Ships, lovely ships, sweeping over the water and pummeling each other with broadsides and boarding parties. Feats of derring-do, bitter duels, rum and wenches, deadly peril and a bawdy sense of humor.

And Jack Sparrow. Captain Jack Sparrow. There's never a dull moment when Jack's around. He's the weirdest, funniest, most interesting pirate I've seen in... too long. Much too long.

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Date: 2003-07-09 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
I have to see this movie. I couldn't resist and read your spoiler, and I squeed through the entirety of it. I also want to go watch all those old pirate movies now, too. Or go read Treasure Island.

I wonder who I can drag to see it with me...hell, I'll just go myself if necessary. I wanna see this movie! Ships, cannons, and pretty boys...*happy sigh*

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Date: 2003-07-09 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
I dragged my mom, because all my friends were working or otherwise busy and I just couldn't wait. And it was so much fun! A big ball of cheese, but really fun cheese. I hadn't even left the theater before I was trying to figure out when I could see it again.

I definitely need to have a pirate movie fest this weekend. I want more swords! More treasure! More ships! More! *g*

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Date: 2003-07-09 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
Hm, that's an idea, I'll bet my mum would see it with me. I'd wait until the weekend for a matinee, but I'm not sure I can wait that long!

Ooh, pirate-fest! What a lovely idea. Start off with something cheery like Muppet Treasure Island, then go to a classic like Captain Blood, then make the rounds and end it all with Treasure Island again (Disney version, which I have this soft spot for :)

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Date: 2003-07-09 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Hee! Good plan! I'm a sucker for Tim Curry as Long John, I admit. He looks like he's having so much fun. And I'd definitely have to watch Captain Blood, since it's my favorite by a big margin. But then what? Fairbanks or Power? Lancaster or Newton? The Sea Hawk, The Buccaneer, or, um, The Princess Bride (hey, it has a pirate!)? I'll have to draw straws. Or not do anything else all weekend. Hey...

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Date: 2003-07-10 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
Hmmm, so many decisions...perhaps all of them? :) I'd definitely say yes to any of the Robert Newton films, and most likely Fairbanks over Power. And yes to The Princess Bride! Love that movie. But then there's Cuthroat Island, Blackbeard's Ghost if you want another spot of humor, and lots more (I found a great list of pirate movies here (http://www.geocities.com/captcutlass/Film.html).

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Date: 2003-07-10 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
That is a great list, and a great site overall. I'll definitely have to spend some time playing there.

Honestly, I've never really cared for Tyrone Power, but I sometimes like his movies in spite of him. He has such great supporting casts. But then he's always in the way- the first time I watched The Mark of Zorro I kept yelling at him to move, since he was blocking my view of Basil Rathbone.

I missed Cutthroat Island when it came out, and somehow I've managed not to rent it yet. I've heard terrible things, but the score is so good I don't see how it could be all that bad. I mean, I wouldn't watch it critically or anything. Is it worth it?

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Date: 2003-07-10 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
lol. Now we can't have anyone blocking our view of Basil Rathbone!

You know, it's actually been quite a few years since I've seen Cutthroat Island, and I'm getting fuzzy on the details of the movie. I do remember liking it, though. Geena Davis is a good choice for a swashbuckling female.

There's another movie I'm thinking of with pirates but I can't remember the name and it's not on the list. *sigh* It'll come to me sometime next week.

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Date: 2003-07-09 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caras-galadhon.livejournal.com
(Honestly, how long do you think it'll be before tremendous pain is promised to those who use 'oi-be har-har' pirate speak in their posts? Days at most, I reckon.)
Which means that we must seize the opportunity while we can! Er... Arrr!

Oh, you had the Hidalgo preview too, eh? You're absolutely right. I was more impressed than I expected to be. And The Last Samurai? We didn't get a preview of it, but --
Pity about it starring Tom Cruise though.
-- my sentiments exactly. I am certain I will have to see it regardless of the fact that Cruise is in it.

It never met a pirate cliche it couldn't steal, it never goes for one sidelong reference to past greats of the genre when it could go for three, and its cast devours entire fleets of scenery.
That's perfect. I love your description, and your review, which is much more coherent than I could hope for myself. ^_^

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Date: 2003-07-09 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
I'm having so much fun with the pirate-speak, I admit. I find myself saying things like "Aye, that it be," or "Blast yer bones, ye scurvy wench" (said that to my sister, actually. Oops). I always get weird looks, but it's addictive!

I was all excited seeing that The Last Samurai preview until Tom Cruise popped up. Wretched little troll doll. I still want to see it (it looks gorgeous), but I really wish it starred someone, anyone else. I'm definitely much more excited to see Hidalgo (to the surprise of absolutely no one. *g*)

Now, see, your review made me all kinds of happy, because it sounded so giddy and enthusiastic. That's how I felt after seeing it, but I tend to get distracted by tangents when I'm writing (just look at how many parenthetical statements I use. But then that's how I talk, too), and it doesn't always come through. Hopefully, lots of people will go see it, it'll make lots of money, and Hollywood will make more fun, silly, romantic (not in the love and kisses sense, I mean) movies. With any luck...

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Date: 2003-07-10 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caras-galadhon.livejournal.com
I'm having so much fun with the pirate-speak, I admit.
*G* I just wish I had more chances to actually use it.

I still want to see it (it looks gorgeous), but I really wish it starred someone, anyone else.
You're telling me. I'd seen the previews on TV, and the first time I was absolutely thrilled with the way it looked, and then there was that "troll doll." Pissed me right off. Took a couple more viewings before I decided I was going to see it in spite of Mr. Cruise. Sheesh. Why him? (Although I will admit I was having Rurounin Kenshin and Blade of the Immortal flashbacks all through the teasers, so that probably has a lot to do with my desire to go.)

I'm definitely much more excited to see Hidalgo
Good lord, yes. I didn't expect it to look so exciting!

*G* Thanks for the kind words about my POTC review. It's *so* uncritical it's incredible, which makes me cringe just a bit. I know what you mean, though -- if I'd waited much longer, one of two things would have happened -- I would have felt compelled to post a mini-essay on the thing (and what would be the point, with POTC? You already said it all so well) or I wouldn't have posted at all.

and Hollywood will make more fun, silly, romantic...movies.
We can hope. Movies that are genuinely enjoyable, and not full of ridiculously unfunny scenes aimed at the lowest common denominator.

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Date: 2003-07-09 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-declinean757.livejournal.com
I thoroughly enjoyed the film. No, it won't win any Oscars except perhaps for special effects and I agree about the choppy editing during some of the fight scenes. But I still loved it. PotC was my favorite ride at Disney--I even boosted a flag from it during my misspent teenage hoodlum year--and to have that inspire a movie with Johnny Depp and Geoffrey Rush (and Orlando Bloom, though he doesn't have the squee effect on me that Depp does) ... well. How could I not like it?

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Date: 2003-07-10 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Hey, you're alive! How are the fires going? Are you guys okay out there?

I've never been on the ride since I've never been much for amusement parks, but I kept flashing back to all of the many hours I spent as a kid in the Pirate Museum in Salem, MA. It has these cheesy dioramas with wax pirate figures doing piratey things, and it's all very silly and fun. And some of the extras in this movie could have been those wax pirates come to life. Freaky.

Yeah, Orlando's very pretty, but he just doesn't get to me. Johnny Depp, on the other hand... There are years of being smitten at work there.

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Date: 2003-07-10 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-declinean757.livejournal.com
We're good. The smoke was just awful for a while, so bad that all I did was curl on the sofa and wheeze, but it's blowing away from us now. The fire continues to raze forests in the Catalinas--I think the last estimate was something like 80,000 acres burned, which is an area roughly the size of Portland--but no more homes and cabins have been lost, and all the communications equipment on Mt. Bigelow is safe.

That was one of the nice things about going to the mall: getting away from the smoke for a while. Even the Invisible Cat was affected; I could hear tiny little sneezes coming from under the bed at night.

I've never been on the ride since I've never been much for amusement parks, but I kept flashing back to all of the many hours I spent as a kid in the Pirate Museum in Salem, MA. It has these cheesy dioramas with wax pirate figures doing piratey things, and it's all very silly and fun. And some of the extras in this movie could have been those wax pirates come to life. Freaky.

I grew up in Florida, so we went to Disney a LOT when I was a kid. Also, we had several local celebrations about pirates in various towns around the state. There's the Gasparilla in Tampa, and Drake's Raid in St. Augustine, both of which commemorate famous pirate raids but Jose Gaspar and Sir Francis Drake, respectively. Somewhere there's a photo of my dad with a beard and wearing a bright red satin pirate shirt from the Gasparilla, though he's probably buried it where no-one will ever find it again.

Wonderful review

Date: 2003-07-10 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathlaw.livejournal.com
Two additions: There are two reasons it's very reminiscent of Mask of Zorro, and that's Terry Rossio & Ted Elliott, screenwriters of both. :-) And the inverted boat scene just had me howling, being straight out of The Crimson Pirate which is one of the best pirate movies ever made, imho.

Hans Zimmer produced the score, so since I'd missed the composer credit up front, thought it was his. And yeah, definitely in his style with similarities to Zimmer's awesome score for The Rock. Unfortunately the soundtrack album won't be out until later this month. I suspect Disney will regret this, as I can't have been the only one who wanted to purchase the CD right after walking out of the movie.

Another O'Malley fan! And Anne Bonney too? And Mary Read? Ever read Sally Watson's JADE?

Yes, Knightley was definitely in the same tradition as my personal favorite female pirate, Maureen O'Hara. :-) Wish there'd been movies like this around when I was young.

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Date: 2003-07-10 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
There are two reasons it's very reminiscent of Mask of Zorro, and that's Terry Rossio & Ted Elliott, screenwriters of both.

Yeah, I was really pleased to see that. They have a definite knack for this sort of thing. I don't suppose you've heard any rumors about what they'll be doing next? I certainly wouldn't mind if they'd toss out another swashbuckler every couple of years, that's for sure.

I knew ahead of time that the score wasn't out yet, thanks to various movie music sites I haunt, and I still zipped right over to Borders after the movie to check. You know, just in case they'd gotten an early copy or two. Darn Disney. I want that CD now!

And Anne Bonney too? And Mary Read?

But of course! Haven't heard of the book, though. Good, I take it? I'm always looking for new pirate-type books.

Ah, Maureen O'Hara. I always liked her. It's the red hair, doncha know. Just like me (okay, way prettier and more fierce than me, but still, a redhead!). It's a pity she tended to be paired with Tyrone Power, though, because I've never warmed up to him. Oh well.

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Date: 2003-07-15 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com
Wait, Hans Zimmer didn't compose the score? Was I just hallucinating his name in the credits? I am confused.

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Date: 2003-07-15 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Nope, you weren't hallucinating. Zimmer was there in the credits (more noticeably than Badelt, in fact), not as the composer, but as the producer of the score (which in his case means he likely composed as much as 1/4-1/2 of it, or even more). Badelt, the composer of record, is a Zimmer protege and a member of his production company, Media Ventures, which no doubt accounts for at least part of the similarities between their styles (here's (http://www.mediaventures.com/bio2003.html) a blurb on the Media Ventures party line, if you're bored or curious).

A number of the big-name film composers currently working, like Horner and Silvestri**, have students and proteges whose styles they've noticeably shaped, but Zimmer and Media Ventures are really notorious for it (Badelt, Gregson-Williams, Powell and the rest sometimes get called the "Mini-Zimmers" in the snarkier movie music magazines like Film Score Monthly). As far as I'm concerned, they might not be the most original scores ever to grace the movies, but they're generally enjoyable, so I don't mind the "house style". Whatever works.

**Alan Silvestri was the composer originally tapped for PotC, actually, but he walked (in a huff, "they" say) over "creative differences" with Verbinski and co. Luckily for him, Craig Armstrong had just gotten fired from the new Lara Croft movie, so Silvestri walked into his job, and Armstrong went off to do Love Actually for Richard Curtis.

Er, sorry about all that. I rarely get a chance to gossip about film composers, and I tend to get carried away.

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Date: 2003-07-15 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com
Quite all right. Good to have that all cleared up.

I am conflicted about Hans Zimmer -- his scores are enjoyable, but even I can tell they're derivative. Sort of like Andrew Lloyd Webber. So I feel a little guilty.

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Date: 2003-07-15 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
I shrieked "Susan Lynch!" when I saw your icon, and now my cats are staring at me like they expect me to explode or something. Very, very pretty icon.

And I sympathize with the slight case of Zimmer-conflict. Me too. I am proud of my score collection, but I don't show it off very often or very widely. It's too easy for people to sneer at movie music as opposed to "real" music, because so much of it is derivative. It's okay to enjoy it, but admitting that you enjoy it is rather gauche. sigh Silly old world.

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Date: 2003-07-15 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com
*giggles* Poor kitties. Have you seen the Ivanhoe miniseries, in which she plays Rebecca? So lovely (the miniseries and her). Ivanhoe is an idiot (if a practical one) for preferring Rowena.

Heh, indeed. And Zimmer isn't really at the top of the heap of movie composers. (Incidentally, does one of the bits from Mask of Zorro get used as placeholder music in every other period action flick trailer now? I swear I noticed it in the Sleepy Hollow trailer, and in PotC. Of course, you might not have noticed, or I may be delusional....)

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Date: 2003-07-16 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
But of course! Ivanhoe (the book) is responsible for my career path, so I had to see the miniseries, and I was thrilled with how it came out. Wilfred and Rowena were as dull as usual, but everyone else, especially Rebecca and Sir Brian, was wonderful. I'd never heard of Susan Lynch before that, but she was so exactly my image of Rebecca and so impressed me that now I'm always on the hunt for her other work. (Ciaran Hinds I already knew, so I expected great things from his Brian).

Nope, you're not delusional. Mask of Zorro seems to be the new Orff of period flick trailers (though I've heard Gladiator and the lighter bits of Fellowship of the Ring a couple of times recently, too). I keep hearing Little Women too, in trailers for family-type films. I'd think TPTB would get tired of using the same music time after time, but I then guess they're hoping for happy associations with films past (among all five people who even notice the trailer-music, that is).

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