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Okay, hockey game is over (we lost, boo!), Little Sister and her boyfriend have gone home, and I'm avoiding anything that looks like work. Fie upon thee, work, for it is Saturday night and I am home watching tapes of Kim Possible! Once, long years ago, I thought, "Someday I'll be a grown-up, and I'll go out on Saturday nights and have a social life," for I was very young then, and not very wise. Oops, and now I'm out of ice cream. That won't do a'tall.


I'm sure that lots of people know this already, but [livejournal.com profile] castalianspring is most exceedingly cool. People who like ships tend to be cool to begin with, but people who give pretty little sparkly ships to their friends? That's a whole new level of coolness. Thanks muchly, Castalia! I love it!

(You may wonder why I'm using "cool" so often rather than my normal mix of "keen," "shiny," "snazzy," etc. It could have something to do with the fact that my house is about fifty degrees, even with both the furnace and the woodstove going. All of my other adjectives are frozen.)


Also very cool is my mother, who got me a Viking Barbie. She's pretty fabulous (the Barbie, I mean, though my mom is as well). She's rather more Wagnerian (or "What's Opera, Doc?") than historical, but her little winged helmet, breastplate and chainmail overskirt are so cute that I don't care a whit. Also very cute are the pink-sailed Viking ships on the packaging. She is Barbiehilda, after all. First Barbie I've ever seen with a sword. Pretty nifty, if you ask me.


I'm crossing my fingers and toes (and hair, since I always wear it braided) that I can swing seeing RotK again on Monday or Tuesday. I was watching the "Concerning Hobbits" bit on the FotR EE this afternoon, and you know, for all that that version of the beginning is closer to the books and is a thoroughly charming piece of filmmaking, I think I have a slight preference for the theatrical version, where it jumps from the prologue right to Frodo under the tree, without meandering through Shire life first. It's a very slight preference, but even so. Many, many people (myself included) are already eagerly waiting for the EE of RotK, nearly a year away, in hopes of seeing all the lovely scenes that didn't make the theatrical cut. Still, there is one apparent plot-twist peculiar to this version that I'll miss once the other scenes are added back in. According to the theatrical cut, Éowyn ends up as Queen of Rohan. Cool. I mean, there's nothing in the movie that says any different. She and Théoden have their lovely scene where he tells her to be brave, be happy and go home and rule after he and all the rest of her male relatives and friends are slaughtered. Assuming the world doesn't end directly thereafter, that is. And then off to war they go, he's killed, she lives, and that's pretty much it for the royal family of Rohan in the films. They don't vanish, of course. Éomer does some sexy, respectful scowling at the coronation while Éowyn smiles at the cute blond stranger next to her ("What did you say your name was again?"), but with no Houses of Healing, no Éowyn/Faramir plotline, and no mention of "Éomer King", there isn’t really anything onscreen to dispute Théoden's choice of heirs. Which is cool. Little Sister's Boyfriend, who's a big fan of the movies but knows nothing about Tolkien, Anglo-Saxon history, aeþelings, or the odds of Rohan ending up with a reigning queen, just assumed that the warrior princess went home to become a warrior queen and was disappointed to find out that her brother got the throne instead. I think I'm going to miss that interpretation once all the missing scenes are added back in, erroneous though it may be.


I was going to blather about the RotK score and the Oscars a wee bit, but my attention wandered so much while I was typing this that it's taken me ages, and instead I'm going to bed. Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow...

Queen of Rohan

Date: 2003-12-28 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
That's a neat observation. Queen Éowyn, yay! I could get behind that.

Of course, I've been spurning the theatrical versions in order to get the EEs for the holidays one after the other, but that might be a reason to go back and get them afterwards.

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2003-12-28 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
...and, anyways, the movies are set in an alternate universe not governed by the laws that inspired Tolkien, of course, and impossible things do happen there before breakfast, what with neither Edoras nor Minas Tirith having any kind of agriculture going on, and people magically producing food anyways. :-)

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2003-12-31 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Hee! That's definitely true. Maybe Gondor has a ready supply of manna? And the Rohirrim have their ale (or maybe mead), so who needs food? All the same, the hobbits should be careful. They're so young and tender.

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2003-12-31 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
Reminds me of The Tough Guide to Fantasyland. Stew! Horses that breed by pollination! Cannibalism and halflings! (No, wait, that last one would be from Grunts!.)

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2003-12-31 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Yeah, I feel very geeky buying each movie twice, and I love having all of the extra, sometimes essential, footage (not to mention the extras themselves), but there are some scenes and transitions I like better in the theatrical versions. Like, as much as I love Théodred's funeral, I miss the abrupt cut from Théoden asking "Where is my son?" to him standing at the tomb. So in the end, it's worth it to me to have both (and the Queen Éowyn thing is just neat). I hope this "two version of the film, each with their own merits" thing doesn't become popular with the industry at large, though. I'll buy these particular films twice, but there aren't many others I would.

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2004-01-01 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
Like, as much as I love Théodred's funeral, I miss the abrupt cut from Théoden asking "Where is my son?" to him standing at the tomb.

Yes. That's a good cut. But Éowyn's lament simply breaks my heart.

and the Queen Éowyn thing is just neat

It makes a pretty icon (http://pages.infinit.net/amneria/eowyn.png), too.

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2004-01-01 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Ooh. That is indeed a lovely icon. Nicely done!

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2004-01-01 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
Do you want it? (I figure I should give you first dibs, since you made the observation.)

Re: Queen of Rohan

Date: 2004-01-01 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Really? Keen! It's a lovely pic, and my icon were sadly lacking in Eowyn-ness. Thank you!

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Date: 2003-12-28 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alethialia.livejournal.com
See, now I was wondering about that. Because the movie seemed to imply that she was Queen, but logic kept annoyingly cutting in, saying she did have a brother and those pesky rules of succession do have to be followed--which would be why they're called rules.

Hmph! They should be more like guidelines, methinks. I'm all for a queen for Rohan. Hell, she killed a Nazgul almost all by her lonesome. That alone should make her eligible.

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Date: 2003-12-31 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Darn that logic stuff anyway. *g* I noticed the glitch while I was watching but it didn't stick- I had a brief "hey, but wait..." moment, and then my brain started filling in "well you know this, that and the other thing from the books and history, and you know such-and-such was filmed, and..." So by the time I left the theater, it was all fixed in my brain. It wasn't until I talked to Matty later that it occurred to me that it wasn't fixed on the screen. Oops. But cool! Because ITA with you, a queen of Rohan would be great, and Éowyn ought to get points for the Nazgul-killing (though she was derelict in her duty toward Dunharrow, but shhh). She'd certainly be an interesting queen, anyway.

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Date: 2003-12-29 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
*reads the title of this post and dies*

Okay, hockey game is over (we lost, boo!), Little Sister and her boyfriend have gone home, and I'm avoiding anything that looks like work. Fie upon thee, work, for it is Saturday night and I am home watching tapes of Kim Possible! Once, long years ago, I thought, "Someday I'll be a grown-up, and I'll go out on Saturday nights and have a social life," for I was very young then, and not very wise. Oops, and now I'm out of ice cream. That won't do a'tall.

*snickers madly* Ah, the folly of youth. But really, relaxing by staying home with tapes of Kim Possible and ice cream, how could a social life compare with that?

I'm sure that lots of people know this already, but castalianspring is most exceedingly cool. People who like ships tend to be cool to begin with, but people who give pretty little sparkly ships to their friends? That's a whole new level of coolness. Thanks muchly, Castalia! I love it!

Oh yay, it arrived! I'm so glad you like it :) I immediately thought of you when I saw it. Merry Christmas! *glom*

(You may wonder why I'm using "cool" so often rather than my normal mix of "keen," "shiny," "snazzy," etc. It could have something to do with the fact that my house is about fifty degrees, even with both the furnace and the woodstove going. All of my other adjectives are frozen.)

*dies again* You're very witty tonight, m'dear. Frozen adjectives...hee!

There's a Viking Barbie? With a sword? Wow. That's really *insert frozen adjective here*.

Huh, I hadn't thought about Eowyn and the throne situation. I suppose it *does* let one assume that she'll be queen when she goes home. She'd certainly be good at it.

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Date: 2003-12-31 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Ah, the folly of youth. But really, relaxing by staying home with tapes of Kim Possible and ice cream, how could a social life compare with that?

Precisely! Socializing is terribly overrated. I'm happy being a hermit. Besides, this way I can stare at my sparkly little ship. *g* Thanks so much! I really love it, and it just so happens that I collect ship ornaments. Yours makes lucky number seven. Keen! Of course, the still-empty tin which will eventually hold cookies for you is staring at me accusingly, but, um, you won't hate me if I can't read a calendar, right?

That's really *insert frozen adjective here*.

snerk. Great comedic timing, there (though I should know by now not to drink tea while reading your comments. Ow). And yep, there is indeed a Viking Barbie (http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/showcase/product.asp?type=&subtype=&product_id=1002788&series_id=150079). Isn't she cool? She's nicer in RL, actually- her breastplate and helmet are matte gold rather than shiny, so it's not so Vegas-looking, and her hair is sort of a tawny/wheat color. Keen. Now I want the Ancient Greek Barbie (http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/showcase/product.asp?type=&subtype=&product_id=1003254&series_id=150079), though, so I have to hope they don't come out with any other cool ones. The last thing I need is another collection.

Huh, I hadn't thought about Eowyn and the throne situation. I suppose it *does* let one assume that she'll be queen when she goes home. She'd certainly be good at it.

She would be, and considering how little we know movie!Éomer, she seems like a more natural choice, from a character perspective (barring the whole rules of succession thing, of course). Poor guy barely got to do anything. But yeah, I'd only just realized that they never fixed that particular plot point when my brain started filling in blanks and I forgot about it, so it didn't really hit me until I got to talk to someone who didn't know there were still blanks to be filled. I kind of like it this way, though. She'd be an interesting queen for sure.

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Date: 2003-12-31 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
Canadian Barbie (http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/showcase/product.asp?type=&subtype=&product_id=150426&series_id=150099). Ach. There are no words. And that hair is not regulation!!

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Date: 2004-01-01 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
You mean I didn't have to dress like that when I was in Toronto? But they told me I did! And I curled my hair and everything. Aw, man...

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Date: 2004-01-03 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
and it just so happens that I collect ship ornaments. Yours makes lucky number seven. Keen!

Really? How cool and coincidental! I'm just starting out collection-wise. Last year for my birthday my mum gave me this gorgeous silver filagree ship ornament, which I just love. It's the prettiest thing on the tree, IMO :) And I have some gold-plated ships that sit in the curio cabinet. I'm so glad I could add to your collection :)

Of course, the still-empty tin which will eventually hold cookies for you is staring at me accusingly, but, um, you won't hate me if I can't read a calendar, right?

Of course I will! Bitch! Now of course I won't, dearest. I have the patience of the One Ring *earnest look*

snerk. Great comedic timing, there (though I should know by now not to drink tea while reading your comments. Ow).

Hee, sorry. Perhaps I should issue windex alerts next time :) The Viking Barbie is indeed very cool! The Ancient Greek one is as well, quite pretty. Such detail, and much improved over the types of Barbies one could buy when I was small.

I suppose there are a lot of blanks to be filled for the characters. I always wonder what happens to Pippin right after the Scouring of the Shire. He's still underage when they return, after all, and won't become of age for a few years yet, more before he becomes Thain. So what does he do in the interim?

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Date: 2003-12-29 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com
I like Éowyn Queen. *clings to delusions* I think she'd be better at it than movie!Éomer, who just...scowls sexily. And slays things.

Also, I want a Viking Barbie!

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Date: 2003-12-31 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
Yeah. Movie!Éomer is pretty, and he scowls nicely and growls speeches well (when he gets them, which isn't often), but that's about it. Hopefully being king requires a lot of scowling. Otherwise, I vote for Éowyn.

Re Viking Barbie- Isn't she neat (http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/showcase/product.asp?type=&subtype=&product_id=1002788&series_id=150079)? She looks better in real life, and she needs a spear, but still, pretty cool. I was never a big Barbie fan, but I think I want the Ancient Greek one (http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/showcase/product.asp?type=&subtype=&product_id=1003254&series_id=150079) now, too. And so it begins...

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Date: 2003-12-31 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com
I bet you could make a spear pretty easily -- a bit of dowel, some cardboard and tinfoil or silver sculpy or....

*smacks brain down*

Noooooo! How can their servers be busy?! They suck!

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Date: 2003-12-31 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
I bet you could make a spear pretty easily -- a bit of dowel, some cardboard and tinfoil or silver sculpy or....

Wayhey, a project! That would be simple enough to do, I bet. Keen!

It's slightly sad how little it takes to make me happy. ;)

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